Introduction
Matt Nolan
A charming Italian supermini with remarkable handling, a little pocket rocket.
The Fiat 127 was first introduced in the early 70s and remained in production for 12 years. It's a supermini with lots of charm and character. This particular example is the second generation of the 127, known as the Series 2 and has been created as an homage to the Sport model that was introduced in 1978. The Sport featured a higher output of 70BHP using the 1049cc engine and incorporated Abarth revisions to greatly improve the performance and styling.
This car was imported from Italy in August 2020, having been restored and converted. It has a number of features from the Sport such as the Abarth air intake with Weber carb, wheels etc, and having been painted in similar livery.
This auction listing was written from information supplied by Matt after meeting Owain the owner, and having visited and photographed the vehicle.
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Hi the sport was a 1050 cc so not sure if this is a replica or has it had an engine change.I used to have one of these.and I live just outside Llandybie
Thanks
Nick
Hi Nick,
Its got a 903cc engine in it.
At least delivery will be cheap if you win it!
Is it the standard 903cc engine?
Thanks
Hi Tim,
Apologies im not an expert with these engines. As far as im aware its a standard unless theres something specific you want me to check to confirm?
Hi, does it idle on its own or will it cut out if you don’t keep the revs up? Have you looked into getting the carb set up at all? Many thanks, Ryan
Hi Ryan,
It idles quite high with the choke out so put the choke in a bit and kept revving it to keep it running for the video. Once its warm it was idling and driving fine.
I havent really done much work on carbs and have never worked on this type before, my usual is a restomod where i’d put a newer engine in the car so had a bit of a crash course when i fitted it.
The cam cover and carb came with the car when i bought it, I had it fully refurbished at Exeter engineering, was aquablasted and new gaskets, seals e.t.c fitted and smaller parts all replated but they set it back to ‘factory settings’ during the refurb.
When I was fitting it we reset the valve clearances, points and set the timing and got it running. This carb has an additional screw apart from the idle screw and idle mix screw that controls the idle (someone will probably correct me).
With lockdown and my other projects (i have 7 cars at the mo) I havent had the time to take it to be tuned/set up.
I have the original carb,cam cover and air intake which will come with the car if anyone wants to take it back to stock.
Thanks,
Owain
Thanks for the reply Owain, much appreciated 🙂
Hi whats wrong with this car ?
What do you mean what’s wrong with the car? Are you talking about anything specific you’ve seen?
So, if it’s not a real ‘Sport’.. what else is missing?
Not sure i really understand what your asking me? Its a standard 127 thats been restored previously as a 127 sport as mentioned in the ad. so theres parts of the trim (steering wheel, gauges, wheels, wing mirrors, bonnet e.t.c) that have been put to sport spec. Its also had an abarth Cam Cover & Weber 32 DMTR carb ‘upgrade’
Do you have prove that it is original mileage and that the clock has not gone around
HI,
None of the documentation with the car comfimrs the milage. It would also be in KM’s rather than miles as its a european car.
Hello. Do you have the spare tire? thank you
Jean Claude
Yes i have the spare tyre
Does it need the fuel additive to convert the unleaded fuel to run in the engine, thanks
It would run on standard unleaded but its a good idea on any ‘classic’ car that was produced before unleaded was a thing to use additive. Runnning it on unleaded will just wear the valve seats/stems e.t.c quicker. I’ve always put additive in while I’ve had the car.
Thanks for the quick reply, I thought that was the case about fuel but always good to check.
Hi
There seems to be a few “crusty ” bits on the sills. Is that hiding more serious stuff – as I know Fiat’s quite well ?
Hi, The car was painted by the previous owner not by myself. What it looks like to me is that they have undersealed the car and have come up the sills with it and then painted over that which is the sort of textured ‘crusty’ area on the lower parts of the sills if this is what your referring to.
Hi, so this is not a sport is a replica sort of thing?
Correct
Thanks , do we know the hp output as its got the smaller engine? Presume it isn’t 70bhp
It hasn’t been on a dyno or anything if that’s what your asking?
Deffo looks like a 903 and car seems to of sold recently on fleabay and had a 903 in it. Is it a 903 or 1050
Hi,
Ive never personally worked on these engines before so wasnt aware of the differences so had no reason to doubt the docs i had been given from the previous seller but looking online the engine seems to match a 903 (distributor & alternator location). Ill get trade classics to update the listing.
Hi, morning, I’m pretty sure the engine is a 903 cc , not 1049, cc
Yes, that’s a 903cc engine – no cambelt, and taller rocker box to accommodate the rockers & tappets.
Hi does it have a leak from the engine?
Nothing on the floor in the garage where the car is kept. Changed the oil and filter the day before the car was consigned so that might explain the oil on the back of the sump in the picture as thats where the drain plug is.
Cheers
Nice looking example. Am i right in thinking that this is a recreation of a “Sport” model and was a standard 127 model before recent restoration. Hence the Homage quote
Yes it’s a recreation. Originally a standard 127 but has a few sport/abarth parts that were fitted when it was restored previously
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