1967 Porsche 912

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AUCTION DETAILS
Auction closed for price: £26,000.00
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Auction ID
#3564
Reserve
Reserve Met - ON SALE
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Posted on
19th of April 2018 at 11:38 AM
Bids
14
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  • VEHICLE DETAILS

    Category
    Model
    912
    Trans.
    4spd Manual
    Reg. Date
    1967
    CC
    1600
    Mileage
    94,769
    Colour
    Silver
    Interior Colour
    Black
    Interior Trim
    Vinyl
    Matching #s
    Yes
    Last Service
    2005 @ $8k
    MOT
    Yes - Exp. April 2019
    MOT Exempt
    No
    Road Tax Exempt
    Yes
    Tyre Tread
    Full
    Tyre Brand
    Pirelli P500
    Tyre Age
    2018
    LHD or RHD
    LHD
    Vehicle Visited
    Yes
    Sale Type
    Private
    Owned
    3 Months
    Key Feature
    Daily Driver
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AUCTION NOTICE

*** UPDATE: This car has now been sold for £27,560 all inclusive ***

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HISTORY LESSON

Here at Trade Classics we’re big fans of the Porsche 912. What’s not to love about these cars, they have the same fantastic looks as the early 911 long hood, and why, well that’s because they have the same body! They are fitted with the revvy, super robust and reliable flat four engine.

Also, they hold massive investment opportunity right now. Whilst we’ve all been focused on the 911 over the last few years, this little car has gone under the radar and covertly been growing in popularity and price. The last year has seen the most growth and industry experts predict it to continue. We all know the rarer the car the more valuable it can be, well this little car is quite rare, much rarer than its bigger brother. Let’s look at the stats, only 32,000 were made in just 5 years (1964 to 1969), so when you compare that against 443,00 air-cooled 911’s produced from 1963 to 1997, then you’re actually buying something a little bit rarer; 92.8% rarer in fact!

I wrote an article on the 912 a few weeks ago and the investment opportunity it presents to us at the moment – click here to read.

Prices at the moment are around early £30k’s for a rolling restoration, then circa £40k for a good examples, excellent ones in the £50k mark and concours beyond that. When you compare the rarity, the fact it’s an early Porsche and it has the same gorgeous looks as an early 911, then is it just me or do these figures sound ridiculously cheap.

 

THE CAR & GARY

This 912 belongs to a friend of us here at Trade Classics, his name is Gary Turner and he’s a proper car guy. Gary has owned and enjoyed many cars over the years, including some very beautiful and rare 911’s.

Last year Gary and his wife made a decision to sell up in the UK and move to Canada for work opportunities. They sold everything from their house to his entire car collection including Porsche 911’s, Porsche 912, Honda NSX, Datsun 250Z and various others.

It wasn’t long until Gary scratched his itch for more cars in Canada, he has since bought a beautiful and early VW campervan, Porsche 911 ST, concours MGA (we sold this for him too) and this little 912. Gary has decided to sell this 912 with us and it was shipped back last month. The car has just been MOT’d and is now ready for the V5 application in the new owner’s name. Don’t worry as we will help you with the V5 application in your name, this is a good thing as you will show as the first registrant on the log book. The car is stored in Kenilworth and available for viewings.

It’s a really honest and original example, however, it could benefit from a small amount of bodywork correction should the new owner desire. In our opinion it’s in good condition and should be driven and enjoyed.

 

EXTERIOR

The exterior of the car is in good condition (scale of: poor / good / excellent / concours). The car has had work over the years in the form of welding and paintwork. From a rust perspective it looks good on our visual inspection and in terms of paint there are panels that have been sprayed independently over the years, showing a slight colour difference on close inspection.

Wheels & Tyres
The car has a beautiful set of fuchs wheels wrapped with new Pirelli P500 tyres. They are in excellent condition and look fantastic against the silver bodywork.

Bodywork
From our visual inspection the bodywork looks to be rot free and Gary has recently commissioned a small bit of welding work on the driver’s foot well. There are a few small chips over the car with a couple that need attention to keep rust at bay, including the leading edge of engine lid and leading edges of the doors. These have been picked out in the images / videos. We have been told by Gary that the underside is rot free and this has been confirmed by passing a recent MOT that did require some welding on the driver’s foot well. The car has been patch welded in places. Visually it looks like the skuttle has had some work done in the past and there are visible signs of the repair. The panel gaps look visibly correct over the car with the exception of the engine lid that would benefit from some fettling to even up the gaps. The OS passenger door has been subject to some dent correction at some point as there are very slight imperfections towards the front upper section.

Paint
The car has been painted at various points during its life and some panels more recently have been resprayed individually. On our visual inspection in sunshine we saw slight differences in the skuttle and bonnet compared to the wings and the rest of the car. The car is good to be run and enjoyed as it is, however, the new owner could, if they wanted to, spend some money on a full glass-out respray and this would increase the value of the car.

Glass and Trim
All glass looked in good visible condition. The chrome / brightwork has the patina you’d expect with the age and original state of the car. There is some very light pitting on the chrome and the plastic air intake under the front bonnet. There looks to be a missing interior lining to the OS headlight.

 

INTERIOR

The interior is a lovely place to be. The gauges and steering wheel are simply beautiful and show patina in line with the age of the car.

Seats and Carpets
The front and rear seats are all in lovely condition with no rips or tears. The same too is said for the carpets.

Dashboard
The gauges are in original condition and worked during our test drive. The dashboard is in good condition too with no splits.

Steering Wheel / Gear Stick
The steering wheel looks original and is in lovely condition matching the patina of the rest of the interior.

 

MECHANICS

The car was driven back from the MOT and drives as you’d expect for a 50 year old car.

Engine and Gearbox
Please see the video to see the cold start. During our visit the car was running slightly rough and may be due to the fact it hasn’t been used that much recently. Gary has since asked an engine specialist to take a look and it’s now running nicely, revs fine, by adjusting carbs with only a small occasional spit. This is most likely a small air leak on one of the carburettors.

Suspension and Brakes
The car handled as you’d expect on our short run without any issue, i.e. the ride was smooth and upon release of the wheel the car slowly moved to the left in line with the camber of the road. The brakes pulled the car up straight. There were no suspension knocks or rattles to be heard from the car on our run.

The Drive
On our drive the car was slightly rough running and didn’t idle. As mentioned above, this is now fixed and was due to be a simple case of tuning.

Electrics and Other
No issues found during our inspection and has just passed an MOT so all the lights will be working.

 

HISTORY

Work was carried out by a Californian garage in 2005.

There is history with the vehicle and Gary is just scanning it and will be made available here soon with full details.

HPi Check Results
– No HPi check has been actioned as the car is currently awaiting its V5.

Previous MOTs
– No previous MOTs are included due to the car being imported recently.

 

OUR SUMMARY

This is a fresh-to-market and original Porsche 912 that is ready to be driven, enjoyed and improved.

If you are looking for an investment car that you can also use and enjoy then this is just what you’ve been looking for.

Please get in touch with me to discuss this opportunity further. You can also ask Gary any questions about the car in the comments section below.

In terms of value, this car is considered ‘good’ condition and priced accordingly during the Pre-Auction process, so a real opportunity to grab a great and desirable car.

 

WRITER

ADAM PURRIER
This auction listing was written by Adam from information gained from Gary (owner and seller of the vehicle) and having visited and photographed the vehicle.

If you have any specific questions about the vehicle then please use the comments section below. Gary will receive a notification and will reply as soon as he can.



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BID HISTORY
UsernameBid AmountDate MadeWinner
ppzoidberg£26,000.0018-May-2018 18:13:55Yes
Ravello55£23,750.0018-May-2018 17:55:47 
ppzoidberg£22,000.0018-May-2018 17:03:33 
TPO£21,000.0018-May-2018 16:55:47 
ppzoidberg£20,500.0018-May-2018 15:22:36 
TPO£19,500.0018-May-2018 15:01:12 
ppzoidberg£19,000.0018-May-2018 10:22:06 
TPO£18,500.0018-May-2018 09:16:19 
ppzoidberg£18,000.0017-May-2018 15:07:36 
raflog£16,000.0017-May-2018 14:46:54 
ppzoidberg£15,000.0017-May-2018 14:09:15 
robert911£12,500.0011-May-2018 10:35:19 
Overthehorizon£11,000.0010-May-2018 22:34:50 
robert911£10,000.0010-May-2018 16:00:13 

COMMUNITY DISCUSSION
40 Comments
Gary
Gary
6 years ago

The reserve has been met. So my 912 will go to a new owner today. Good luck with your bidding. Thanks. Gary

Adam Purrier - Trade Classics
  Gary
6 years ago

Cheers Gary…

Gary
Gary
6 years ago

Yep. Thanks Adam. Any last minute questions, fire away

Adam Purrier - Trade Classics
Admin
6 years ago

Bidding is hotting up at over £20k now. We’re on hand to answer any questions… so too is Gary. Just send your questions here… Cheers Adam

Trade Classics

Gary
Gary
6 years ago

Hello Guillaume

It’s the silver car – not the white car on Instagram. There are two cars on the TCA site.

My car is silver, the CoA states the original colour as Light Ivory. I can not see any paint on the car other than silver. It must have had a full respray at least 15 years ago in silver. Does this anwer your question? Thanks. Gary

Guillaume
Guillaume
  Gary
6 years ago

Hi Gary, thanks for the explanation. Helps a lot. G

Guillaume
Guillaume
6 years ago
Guillaume
Guillaume
6 years ago

Hi,
Is the car silver grey or light ivory as per the Coa?
Cheers

robert911
robert911
6 years ago

Have the carbs have been rebuilt since 05 with new linkages?

Gary
Gary
  robert911
6 years ago

Hello Robert. The linkages have not been rebuilt. There is some general wear and tear play. It would be a job I’d do if keeping – one of those ‘rolling improvement’ jobs.

robert911
robert911
  Gary
6 years ago

cheers Gary

Gary
Gary
6 years ago

In answer to some questions, yes – the car would make an excellent driver. It’s not going to win concours shows. But it will put a smile on your face every time you go out for a drive.

You don’t have to worry about getting it dirty or a stone chip or a ding. Go drive. Enjoy. You can use it while gradually improving.

Don’t get me wrong. I absolutely love having a show quality. Having a car that literally looks like it just left the factory. My MGA that Eamonn bought from this site last month, for example. But I also love having a car, like the 912, that you don’t have to fuss over. Turn the key and drive. Leave it in the rain. Leave the windows open when you go shopping. Park it wherever you like (supermarket car parks!).

I’d recommend this car to someone that wants to get into classic cars, perhaps for the first time. It’s a low cost entry car. It’s not a investment car (but it is likely to go up in value) – go enjoy it.

Auction is live. There pictures, videos and details are more than I think I’ve EVER seen for any car advertised anywhere in the world! Do ask away if you have any questions. Best of bidding

marcus.knight
marcus.knight
6 years ago

Great looking car.

Gary
Gary
  marcus.knight
6 years ago

Thanks Marcus. I think you asked about paint code? It’s on the CoA – Light Ivory 6604.

marcus.knight
marcus.knight
  Gary
6 years ago

Thanks! I wrote the question and then realised where I could find out the answer myself!! It wouldn’t let me delete my comment so I thought I would just edit it to offer some praise instead! Best of luck.

Adam Purrier - Trade Classics
Admin
6 years ago

TCA – Added some more images showing recent receipts and also the Porsche Certificate of Authenticity. Cheers Adam

Gary Turner
Gary Turner
6 years ago

I have a feeling that the headlights are a rare set of rims and headlight glasses. They are identical to my 1972 ST and look like Carello – or Corello style. Happy for anyone to comment. They have a good look and I think set the front of the car off nicely.

Gary
Gary
6 years ago

Update. The 912 passed its MOT today. Foot wells had a little welding to sort the flexing out, brake light switch and speedo cable connection fitted.

Adam will put into pre-auction sale soon.

Matt Croft
Matt Croft
6 years ago

Hi, When will the auction begin on this car and where is it located to view?

Adam Purrier - Trade Classics
  Matt Croft
6 years ago

Hi Matt – the auction is due to start in two weeks time. The car is just being MOT’d and getting ready for sale. It’s stored in Kenilworth at the moment. If you want to see the car in advance or talk to me about it then send me a direct message via the site or the Contact Us page. Cheers Adam

Gary Turner
Gary Turner
6 years ago

Quick update. The car has arrived in Kenilworth, having gone through the NOVA process and released by the shipping company. Next up is clean/valet and address a couple of the outstanding issues (like speedo) – then MOT and V5 application. If anyone wants to view, message here and we can arrange.

andyc1
andyc1
  Gary Turner
6 years ago

yes I want to come see the car if poss? thanks Andy

Gary Turner
Gary Turner
  andyc1
6 years ago

Hi Andy, you are very welcome to. I’ve responded on DDK. It may take a week for the car to get cleaned and readied for the MOT etc. Let me connect you with William, my son.

Adam Purrier - Trade Classics
Admin
6 years ago

Hi everyone – Gary has sent us a video of the engine running.

Gary Turner
Gary Turner
6 years ago

Thanks Adam for posting up the pictures. I would stress these were taken in a hurry, without any fettling and cleaning. It was just that I had the lift and wanted to take a few pictures of the underside.

As you can see – they engine is clean – and was probably rebuilt when the transmission was re-built, but I have not paperwork as evidence. I do see gaskets and other evidence that the engine has been apart. It runs very well which tells me it has probably had some sort of rebuilt. I also note the steering rack looks like its been newly refurbished. Brake rotors and pads are good. Fuch wheels have been nicely and expensively refurbished. Exhaust is good. Suspension including control arms and bars are in nice condition.

If I were keeping it (and I can’t as the car has been exported to the UK and I will continue to work in Toronto) I would do very little to the car. Just drive and enjoy, and gradually bring the car up a standard by cleaning and gradual re-furb. I particularly like the interior. So, so original.

Car is now off-loaded in Southampton and will make its way to Kenilworth next week. MOT next up

andyc1
andyc1
  Gary Turner
6 years ago

hi Gary did I notice / hear correctly that it was running on three cylinders when you drove it on the ramp ? best Andy

Gary Turner
Gary Turner
  andyc1
6 years ago

Hi Andy. No, the car is running on all four cylinders perfectly. When I worked on the car after I bought it I found that the right hand Solex carb was not working properly. I took off the carb and found that the injector rod was not connected to the throttle linkage. I secured the rod and put it back on. I also found the gasket was not sealing properly between the carb and the inlet manifold creating a slight vacuum leak (which caused a slight lean misfire). I put a new gasket on and this sorted out completely the carb.

I then balanced the carbs and got the car running smoothly. Trade Classics can put on a short video I took with the car running and revving smoothly on all cylinders.

Adam Purrier - Trade Classics
Admin
6 years ago

Even more pics uploaded of the mechanical bits… thanks Gary.

Adam Purrier - Trade Classics
Admin
6 years ago

Hello all – more early images now attached. Of course we’ll be taking our usual images and videos when it lands in the UK.

andyc1
andyc1

Great Adam love this car

Adam Purrier - Trade Classics
  andyc1
6 years ago

It does look good doesn’t it Andy…. also I know it will be a good car as Gary is super fastidious Porsche guy….

I got to know Gary after he was the under bidder on my 3.2 I bought back in 2015… he got in touch with me after the auction… yes he cost me a few grand (quite a few) but I don’t hold that against him 🙂

andyc1
andyc1

really look forward to bidding on this hope I win it !! do you set reserves at all ?

thanks Andy

Gary
Gary
6 years ago

Hello Andy, thanks for the message. What I like about auctions, and Trade Classics in particular, is that we arrive at close (but generally a little lower) than ‘market’ price. There needs to be something in it for the buyer, and to cover the auction fee. Trade Classics is excellent in this regards. 6% is significantly cheaper than other auction businesses.

In terms of value, let’s see how the auction pans out. I’m going to set a low reserve, so it will sell to the highest bidder – all things being equal.

Please do feel free to see the car in Kenilworth. Adam at Trade Classics will do a full write up, and post many good quality pictures of the car. There will also be videos, so if you can’t get to see the car in person, you’ll get a very good idea of how this car is.

We’ve seen prices for 911s and 912s fluctuating over the last 24 months. For similar examples, I’ve seen prices range from low £30ks to mid £50ks. I’d put my car at the lower end of this scale. Hope this helps. But do see the car is that works for you. Thanks for your interest and do ask any questions. Happy to give a straight up answer.

andyc1
andyc1
6 years ago

Hi Gary – any Idea what the estimate will be ? Best Regards Andy

Gary Turner
Gary Turner
6 years ago

There tends to be a debate about the pros and cons of the four speed v the 5 speed gearbox. I’ve had both – and I don’t see too much between them. The 4 speed is more a cruiser, and 5 for better acceleration. Given the relative low power of the 912, I slightly prefer the 4 speed.

Gary Turner
Gary Turner
6 years ago

The 912 will arrive into Southampton on the 5 March. It’ll then clear customs and get the NOVA sorted. I am estimating it will be possible to view the car from the 25 March onwards – located in Kenilworth. It may not have its MOT, and won’t be able to be test driven, but any interested bidders can see the car, engine running, and drive around the yard.

Adam Purrier - Trade Classics
  Gary Turner
6 years ago

Thanks for the update Gary…

Gary Turner
Gary Turner
6 years ago

Seller here, Gary. Happy to answer any questions you may have on my 912. It is now on the water heading across the pond.

MICK JONES
MICK JONES
  Gary Turner
6 years ago

Hi Gary
When do you expect the car to arrive and be available for inspection
Many thanks
Mick

Gary Turner
Gary Turner
  MICK JONES
6 years ago

Good evening Mick – Hello.

The car was loaded in Toronto two weeks ago (hopefully you’ve seen the video with me driving the car up the trailer ramp?). The sound as I get it up onto the ramp was the right wheel spinning by the way, not grounding.

We expect the car to arrive into Southampton 10 March. Then its up to the garage to get it MOT’d and V5 issued. The jobs for the MOT should be: switching around lights at the rear cluster to get an amber indicator, replace the speedo angle mechanism at the gearbox, get the rev counter working. Other than that, I think it will pass. If not, obviously I’ll have the car fixed and report back what was required. I honestly don’t think it will have too many issues with getting the MOT (but you never know with garages).

To answer your question, I’m thinking end of March to be on the safe side. The car will be in Kenilworth. Does this help?