Introduction
Glyn Parry
With its 3.2L flat six engine, iconic body styling, and open top roof, the Porsche 911 Targa is both a formidable and desirable sports car.
The Porsche 911 has long been recognised as one of the most iconic and influential sports cars in recent history, with its instantly recognisable styling, low driving position, and precision engineering - it’s not hard to see why.
The 911 Targa is no different, with its 3.2L flat six naturally aspirated engine producing ~231BHP it can achieve speeds over 150mph and accelerates from 0-60 in just 5.6 seconds. This particular example was first registered in 1988 and came in the stunning Iris Blue paint colour with blue leatherette interior and blue/white pinstripe seat inlays.
This car was spec'ed from the factory with optional extras including sports seats, 16" Fuchs, sport shock absorbers, and the iconic "Whale Tail" spoiler on the rear of the car. This particular example also benefits from having had restorative works carried out to the bodywork in the current ownership in 2019, and comes to market from 8 years ownership.
This auction listing was written from information supplied by Glyn after meeting Jeremy the owner, and having visited and photographed the vehicle.
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Auction Update – The reserve on this auction has been removed by the seller Jerry001. This car is now on sale with No Reserve. Good luck if you’re involved in the bidding. Best, Kulraj – Trade Classics
Hi Jerry
Your car looks great.How soon after the auction closes would you expect payment to be arranged by?
Thanks
Andrew
Hi Andrew, thanks for your interest. Yes the car’s truly stunning.
I’m assuming you’re asking about final payment timings because you’d like an extended period after the auction to get the funds together, is that right ?
Please let me know if that’s the case so I can offer a solution
Jeremy
I completely understand by the way, not many people has that sort of cash freely sloshing about
Thanks Jeremy
You’re a mind reader!
If I were the winning bidder I could pay a deposit of £2000 for your peace of mind,but being realistic it would take c3 weeks for the rest of the funds to be cleared into my account.If this is acceptable then please let me know,as I’d rather be transparent up front (no dodgy Sales Negotiation at play here…?)
Fully understand if this isn’t acceptable,however;no problem at all
Andrew
Hello Andrew, it wouldn’t be an issue for me – I’m away offshore again from 20th March to 20th April, so might be beneficial for both of us. Car would stay safe and protected in my garage.
After your first mail I spoke with Tradeclassics to seek advice. They suggested I respond with the following –
quote – ”I think the standard terms are payment within 7 days, if possible, though I’d ideally like to have things wrapped up by 20th March as I work away. I could add some flexibility to this so long as a significant non-refundable deposit (suggest £5K) was sent across and a firm date for completion was set” – unquote
I’d be happy to take £2500 as non-refundable deposit Andrew, with an end date for full payment of 22nd/23rd April (a weekend)
Hope that flexibility helps
I see there’s some serious interest building, so I wish you the very best of luck
Kind rgds and thanks for your interest, much appreciated
Jeremy
That sounds ideal Jeremy,thanks for your consideration.Understood and accepted
Andrew
Hi Jerry,
Quick question about the last MOT. It advises that the front bearings have play in them, however it looks like there is paperwork from 2019 suggesting they were replaced. Not a lot of mileage since then – do they wear that quickly normally or were they poor parts fitted by Halfords?
Hello – yep a fair question. Process over that period was minor body repairs done with Peter Hawkin (a body work specialist in Cornwall, where i live) – the car stayed with Peter, through Winter 2018 to May 2019. (i.e no miles). On completion I took her to Halfords for MOT 8th June 2019, a few minor items repaired – which included the front right wheel bearing – as you’ve picked up. With that new MOT and new bodywork completed, I then drove her to Plymouth Williams Crawfords (Porsche Specialist), approx 25 miles from me for an engine oil change and brake fluid check. Also asked them for a valuation at that point as she was looking sooooo good. A while later on 27th April 22 as you spot, the MOT picks up ”SLIGHT PLAY” in nearside and offside wheel bearings as advisories. The tyres at this point have been on the car for many, many years (since before my ownership), very low mileage, tread still good and not worn out, but tyres are hard old and starting to crack – still perfectly good, but also picked up on that same MOT to monitor. As an engineer myself I believed it could simply be that the tyres where hard, slippy, old that might’ve caused concern with the wheel bearing. Consequently I changed all four tyres for new (see receipt Steve Andrews Tyres) N rated pirelli’s 3rd May 2022.
Answering your question, above no I don’t thing it was poor parts for the wheel bearing, I think the MOT mechanic might’ve been mistaken by the old, very hard, slippy tyres (now all changed for new). Hope that answers the question and shows the thought process. Thanks for looking, appreciate you’ve taken time to look and piece together all the detail. All best
Any other questions, please just ask
Jeremy
Thanks Jerry. In terms of the oil tank leak also noted on the MOT, was any diagnosis done to confirm where the leak was coming from? Some leaks from the oil system can only be fixed by dropping the engine so it it’s either a cheap fix or an expensive one!
Hi EType38 – you ask about oil tank leak. Again yes, I also saw that on the MOT cert as an advisory. I can’t answer that one so clearly unfortunately. Only thing I can do is restate the engine is tight, there are no smoking issues on start up, she has a really clean exhaust, if running cold or at running temp. After any run, the car goes back in the garage, protected and warm, roughly over the same spot each time – I’ve seen no oil, absolutely none, on the light grey painted garage floor – I’ve wiped nothing up. She’s tight. That’s not to say I don’t top up the oil on occasion as normal, but it doesn’t come out of any leaking gasket or joint as far as I can see. Best answer I can give on that one.
I did have a new oil cooler fitted back in 2016 at Williams Crawford (see receipts) hope that gives some reassurance – not many mile since that was fitted
Thanks again
Jeremy
Hello Alan – yes I do have extra detail on the body work that was done and yes there is photo evidence. I’m currently offshore due back home Saturday. I’ll check with Tradeclassics tomorrow on how we upload the extra images. The guy that did the job was superb, a real craftsman, very detailed, it was £5K well spent. Receipt image is in the info section of this listing I believe
The rear wiper motor is fine, operates well, no issues. Car hasn’t been out in the damp for quite some time (years) so it’s rarely used – that’s just where it parks itself, doesn’t cause me any visibility issues driving
No the engine itself hasn’t had any ”major” work i.e top end rebuild. I did have the engine out as a whole, to get to the gearbox for a simple clutch fork change in 2016 (please see document/receipts section). But apart from that, in my ownership she’s been well maintained with regular smaller services, oil changes, plugs etc. There’s also absolutely no leaks underneath at all. There’s nothing on the garage floor, whenever she’s taken out for a spin, no oil spots or marks of any kind. To add to that (as you’ll see on the video) the car starts first time every time from cold, with no exhaust smoke – suggesting a nice tight engine, with good piston rings, clean cylinder surfaces etc
Let me know if you need more info – I’ll speak to Tradeclassics soon as I can re extra images
Thanks for your interest
Jeremy
Many thanks Jeremy,
I am based in Dublin & it would be nice to take her back to where she started life (albeit up North but you get the point).
If only we didnt have to pay the 23% VAT to bring her back in. Brexit eh!
Anyway, thanks again for the extra info, much appreciated. If you can load up anything else, it would be fantastic.
Kindest regards,
Alan
Hi Alan, made it back home, flew off rig yesterday. This morning I’ve emailed a load of images to Tradeclassic, who assure me they’ll upload to my listing soon as possible. Hopefully you’ll be able to see, any minor rust areas we found were removed and metal work replaced with new, clean metal, before repair process carried out. As I mentioned before a top quality job. The car was with Peter Hawkins the body work specialist for several months in his professional workshop over Winter 2018 to May 2019 while I was away at sea working
All best
Jeremy
Many thanks Jeremy – really appreciate that. I look forward to seeing the extra images.
Just quickly on the Targa top, how well does it fit, is it snug, are there any leaks? An ill fitting Targa top can generate a lot of wind noise. There are no images of the car with the roof on & the image of the Targa top appears to show damp or possibly evidence of a previous/current leak. Is the headliner sagging too on this top?
Cheers,
Alan
Hi Alan, I can see your point and where you’re looking. The last images on the ”exterior ” set of shows the targa lid. I haven’t been out in the car for many years in the rain – this is on purpose, but not because the lid leaks. The targa roof is in good nick. It folds into three sort of sections when taken off for stowage in the boot. i.e the two outer edges fold into towards the centre, making one smaller section, twice as thick. This then sits neatly in the boot (front). The leathers generally in good condition * i feed it with autoglym leather care balm – there’s a couple of small cracks where it hinges. These small crack are clearly shown in the images. The bit you can see that looks damp inside the lid is actually historical glue. I think the previous owner replaced the head lining wit h a new lining (not sure why) and they’ve used an incorrect glue that’s seeped through the fabric. On the images it does look like damp, I agree, but it’s not. The roof mechanism, where it folds, is smooth, easy to operate, no squeaks, no jams, no misalignment. It’s actually a very clever design. So, answering your questionn – does it leak ? Answers is no. When i wash the car, (which is perhaps a little too frequently), nothing enters the cabin, no moisture at all and the car has no cloudy windows or internal build up of water of any kind on the inside of the glass at any time. This proves she’s tight.
The targa section fits well into the roof space and it looks down snuggly on two cam fittings at the forward end of the lid. There’s very little road noise or wind that enters the cabin if driving with it in place. The lining doesn’t sag, is well attached,no loose bit hanging down inside and it looks good. But that inside lining could ”look” better, I agree
Hope that helps. All best
Jeremy
Hi Alan, Tradeclassics have now uploaded some of the bodywork images – they’re at the end of the history section images
All best
Jeremy
Hey Jeremy,
Just a couple of questions for now if I may…
Do you have any extra detail on the bodywork that was done & is there any photo evidence of this work?
Would I be correct in thinking that the rear wiper is out of alignment? From memory, it should be in the vertical position when switched off. Is the motor ok?
Has the engine had any major work apart from oil changes?
Many thanks,
Alan
Hi Alan, I replied to your previous question re the targa top – but Tradeclassics tell me there’s a minor issue with their system software, meaning each time I (or anyone else) replies to a question it indents the answer, getting narrower and narrower – so I’ve re-copied my response here, hopefully you can see it ? – I can see your point and where you’re looking. The last images on the ”exterior ” set of shows the targa lid. I haven’t been out in the car for many years in the rain – this is on purpose, but not because the lid leaks. The targa roof is in good nick. It folds into three sort of sections when taken off for stowage in the boot. i.e the two outer edges fold into towards the centre, making one smaller section, twice as thick. This then sits neatly in the boot (front). The leathers generally in good condition * i feed it with autoglym leather care balm – there’s a couple of small cracks where it hinges. These small crack are clearly shown in the images. The bit you can see that looks damp inside the lid is actually historical glue. I think the previous owner replaced the head lining wit h a new lining (not sure why) and they’ve used an incorrect glue that’s seeped through the fabric. On the images it does look like damp, I agree, but it’s not. The roof mechanism, where it folds, is smooth, easy to operate, no squeaks, no jams, no misalignment. It’s actually a very clever design. So, answering your question – does it leak ? Answers is no. When i wash the car, (which is perhaps a little too frequently), nothing enters the cabin, no moisture at all and the car has no cloudy windows or internal build up of water of any kind on the inside of the glass at any time. This proves she’s tight.
The targa section fits well into the roof space and it looks down snuggly on two cam fittings at the forward end of the lid. There’s very little road noise or wind that enters the cabin if driving with it in place. The lining doesn’t sag, is well attached,no loose bit hanging down inside and it looks good. But that inside lining could ”look” better, I agree
Hope that helps. All best
Jeremy
Got that Jeremy, really appreciate the extra detail. Thank you.
I see the body work was all done on the passenger side. Would it be fair to say the driver side will need similar work carried out soon? Looks like the dreaded bubbling is starting on the bottom of the driver door & lower quarter panel in photo 87 of the exterior.
Morning Alan, I took the liberty of looking you up online, on Linked-In. Very impressive. Linking your name, with your detailed questions, plus the fact you mentioned Ireland all seem to point in the same direction. I might be wrong, apologies if I am? The line on your profile ”skilled in used car sales negotiation” pops right out of the page. Those skills are clearly evident here, no doubt of that. But I do hope you’re not trying to manipulate the process and other prospective buyers by trying to find little picky issues. First where the rear wiper parks, then the targa roof internal lining appearance and now a very, very small blemish at the bottom of the drivers door. Absolutely nothing wrong with doing that of course. But anyone else reading should be emboldened that a skilled dealer is struggling to find anything major to focus on, picking up very minor imperfections only. However, that said this car, as you’ll know and as clearly stated, is indeed 40 years old. She’s not perfect by any stretch, but she’s pretty close. The reserve is set, this is an auction and the very, very detailed pictures/video provided by Tradeclassics do all the talking.
So in answer your question. Yes, the superb work carried out was all on the passenger side and it was completed to absolute perfection. Does this automatically mean the drivers side is about to fall to bits as implied, no, that’s incorrect, it’s not. She’s 40 years old, there will always be ongoing maintenance, that should be expected and clear by any owner of a truly beautiful, outstanding, iconic classic such as this. But, that’ll be decided by the new owner….if, they reach the reserve. I’m keeping my fingers crossed someone will take the leap as I did and enjoy the ownership. I’m not a skilled trader Alan, just a simple bloke with a nice car to sell. Hope this answer you questions.
All the best
Jeremy
Hi Jeremy,
Absolutely not trying to manipulate or pick holes in the auction at all. I am 100% genuinely interested in the car for myself only. The only reasons for my questions are simply because I am based in Ireland, I can’t really get over to see it beforehand, Trade Classics are great for their high resolution images to help inform purchasers without having to leave their homes but all of this aside, the main reason is that if I were to buy the car, with the exchange rate, buyer’s premium, & dreaded 23% VAT I would have to pay on top, it is then costing me a massive amount as I hope you can appreciate? I am just looking for the best car within my budget. Nothing to do with my profession I can promise you. I would be asking these questions if I was standing in front of the car with you.
If I have offended you, please accept my apologies. Not intended at all.
Kindest regards,
Alan
Hi Alan, you’ve not offended me at all, I genuinely appreciate you looking, thank you. You’ve obviously taken considerable time and effort to trawl through all the images, gathering all the detail and put everything together. It’s very impressive, very professional. However when i saw your profile and understood you’re a professional trader, you do this for a living, I wanted to make sure you knew, I knew. Whilst also informing anyone else who might be looking at my beautiful car. I’m not trade so selling for me is not a daily process. Its fairly rare. Whilst this isn’t and shouldn’t be a concern for you Alan, it’s a fact that makes me cautious this end as well. Your costs, import charges, fees to Tradeclassics and Vat at 23% do seem excessive, i feel your pain, but sadly I can’t help you with that. I can however be truthful, so the bad things – the headlight washer pumps not working, only found that out after tradeclassics came for inspection. A new pump, little unit, 1.5 inch diameter, 3 inch long (located in very front of boot is about £80) easy to fit, easy to access but it’s not really needed, so I haven’t changed it. The targa top has very small cracks in the leather where it bends for storage, clearly shown on the images. The targa lid lining could be better, you’ve picked up on that. The Porsche 915 gearbox in general can be more difficult than the later model G50 box. The concerns around the 915 boxes are well know and we’ll documented online. Basically it can be more difficult to find the gear than the smoother G50 box. However as long as you dont force the gear changes its fine. Some people in the 911 comminity even relish the 915 box as more engaging with a more classic feel. My 915 box is exactly that, it’s not super smooth until warm, then take time to find the gear and not force it and it’s fine. The body work is as you can see on the images, near perfect. The mileage is very, very low. The tyres are brand new, all four. There’s a recon/serviced original 1980’s Porsche Blaupunkt cassette radio, there’s a full sized colour coded spare wheel, the tool pouch and tools, a working compressor unit for the space saver wheel/tyre (not that youd ever use it) a professional car cover and storage bag. The engines completely dry and smoke free even on start-up. Shes well serviced with plenty of documented history. There’s some wear on the drivers side seat bolster (image 36 of 211) and a small, straight 1 inch tear (image 160 of 211) in passenger seat. Both those are easily rectified. There’s also several images of the area you mentioned before, around driver side B post area and images of the underside of the drivers door, all of which show clean lines, solid paintwork, no rust spots what so ever. Apart from those minor faults Alan, there’s really not much else I can tell you. It’s a very good car, I’m almost convincing myself not to sell hahaahha. But I’d like a Supersport and can’t afford two 911’s !! In summary, shes a 40 year old iconic design, classic Supercar…but still a car, so there will be challenges, thats part of it…..however, always puts a massive smile on my face every time i open the garage door……..Either way Alan been a pleasure chatting. Appreciate you looking and thanks again. Good luck. Jeremy
Hi Jeremy, I could not have put that better myself, well said!
Lovely car by the way, im sure its worth every penny, I might have a bid myself a little later, good luck!
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